Friday, January 28, 2011

Current Watch: "Glenwood Springs Chamber Resort Association Investigation"

Today's post is put up by 'GWS44'. 

Yesterday, a Garfield County citizen commented and put up his name.  This individual has been aware of the whole scope of problem from the beginning.  His comment was heated, direct and if there were no concerns for harm to others, we would let it stay.  In fact, we wanted to let it stay.  It was pulled by grace that runs far, far deeper than my own.

With everyone agreeing this morning we're putting up his revision at his request.

For anyone else wanting to speak while we have comments down again, write in by email in a letter form and we'll review it.


I talked to her at length yesterday after she pulled my name and comment off this blog.

There’s 2 reasons I’ll go along with that.

The biggest one is after talking, I see your right.  There’s a list now of people hurt and after a lot of years, clear evidence that shows who did that. That woman is known now with hard evidence that eventually stops her.  If people don’t have a safe place from that, they not only won’t talk, she’s daily revealing she doesn’t think she has anyone stopping her and anyone getting in the way gets hurt.   

The second reason I’ll go along with being yanked is because the men involved in this group and the men who have fallen in alongside them since you started now have one who needs help staying standing. They now have vulnerable younger kids and their parents in the line of fire from that same woman running loose. The goal seems to be complete destruction of their lives. On the other hand it’s not an option to let lives be taken. Those men are right that the thing to do is stay standing in front until authority deals.  Those men are right that there isn’t anyone stopping her.  The vulnerable come first.

You put me up in an email post too.  For now, leave my name off and I won’t post it again until we agree on that.

Here’s my words:

“Interesting to see the delay in the video put up on the city site.  Save the smoke and whistles trying to slap an excuse on that. I don’t want to see minutes like I saw yesterday on the city site that are shaved down from what they were when they came in the council packet last Monday.  Shaved down in Kaup’s stmts of why she’s not running again.  I don’t appreciate the attempt to insult my intelligence.  Remember, your all on public record now in a lot of areas and your actions reveal. 

Chuck out to the garbage every single word out of council, city leaders, tourism and the chamber mouths that distracts from that fact and please do so from this point forward.  I don't want to hear it.

At this point, I want to know where in the hell my Garfield BOCC is. 

They oversee the county.  What we have here that a blind man can see now is verified proof that more than one of Garfield’s citizens has a complaint against the chamber of commerce.  And every one of those complaints says the same thing.  Get the problem of your public tax, your public contract and your whole relationship with the chamber away from the victims.  Deal with it, it’s your responsibility, they have nothing to do with it and never have wanted to.  What we have here now is a proven city council not doing anything about at least the current for over a year now until recently when it's so bad it gets filed in a court of law.  What we have here now is a legal process trying to back track and clean up but think it's Ok to still let more fall and all to go deeper into the shadows.   

The writer before me is dead on right.  Those things stand when all else falls away.

What really stands up that needs intervention from higher, is council and chamber board not just turning backs on those complaints, but encouraging the harm happening to people by encouraging a process that is now proven to allow anything to go on because they're being led around by the help that can't be fired.

To hear at Christmas another family has fallen prey. And to keep hearing no matter how bad or obvious it gets, there’s still a council sitting that has the audacity to act like they are now in public meetings plus still sit cowering in front of that one sick mind in the help that can’t be fired,  sends nothing but a cold chill up my spine. 

To watch with my own eyes that council has the power to run human lives, businesses and physical bodies into harms way is a feeling of fear looking at the depth.

Since when is any part of this allowed?”

1 comment:

glenwoodsprings22 on behalf of smalltown7 said...

Answering whats in my box this morning then it'll be a few days unless something pops up.

Answer to why I get to post and comments still stay shut down is because I have the remote log and pass and I can. just sayin. btw, you avatars are all welcome for that. some of you really need to get a life or find a new hub since the PI is what it is. This blog is not that hub.

This compromise works, we'd prefer to be done with the prob that's not ours. Send it by email and something we can cut, paste, edit if have to.

No, we don't think we have a corrupt city. Or a corrupt council. We don't think we have a corrupt chamber board either and have said that all along.

Here it is again: Get the public funds out of the hands of the obvious and keep them out. Let the end of an era die a natural death. If there is any business, comatose or just stupid enough to circle that drain by attaching themselves to that era, as long as they aren't harming anyone and don't touch public anything, they can have their choice of free will. Every year that goes by shows the businesses who make that choice. We left, we stood up until the whole thing naturally did what it needed to do and we won't return to use those businesses.

You make your own choice. From the major decline in the chamber over the last two years, apparently you have. There's a lot of other choices out there, including Randi Lowenthal. Including the Carbondale and Aspen Chambers. The REDC down in Rifle and all that Moore moves and shakes has got great things going on. Anybody who supports them can join no matter where you business is. Follow people like Carey and do your own thing. Up to you and you don't need anyone else.

What we have always said about council for years and years, they are proving all on their own now that they have a hot light on them and doing that proving really well. Ms. Kaup has passed a natural death and already is replaced. Why slam her, why are you trying to do that? Leave it alone and let it be. They'll all be accountable if they have something to be accountable for. Does her announcement in approved minutes look a lot different and shaved down than it did when it came out in council packet before last mtg? It sure does. Good eyes, MR. That's just about as bad as Leo asking if T Board can be stopped from exec mtgs and Dave working way too hard to slip in personal disclaimers onto public record late last Dec. These things are not some great reveal and their not hidden. As of right now at this comment, for all time you can now mark the date, time and obviously 'why' they are scrambling. Use that info to make your political choices in the future.

Here it is again. The way you can see something like MR did on the minutes is to go to the city website. Sign up to get the council packet from Robin. The instructions are right there. That packet comes out the Monday before mtg and has a copy of the minutes from the last mtg and we're pretty darn sure the City of GS isn't fudging on those. They go to council mtg for approval. Something like Kaup did is technically Ok, she can pull off what she doesn't want. The way you check on her is to watch the mtg videos. City website.

No comment on how we feel about how any of this is being handled now. Next up here on safe is continued posting of your words, just put them in mail. Continued posting if and when any reporter out there decides they can afford to strap on a pair of waders now that they are safe. btw, that's a whole other travesty. Good job avatars. Boycotting the hub on the PI, looks like the point has been made so do what you want now. Still not safe however.

smalltown7 continues to track Ordinance #12, Series of 2010 and that tracking gets posted.